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Pharyngula 2025-02-15

This email was long and particularly vapid, so I’m not going into detail on it, but I do include the whole damn thing below the fold for your entertainment. To summarize it briefly, my correspondent is a friendly Muslim who wants me to know that he accepts evolution…for other organisms, but not humans. Humans are special. To make his point, he provides Evidence of the Divine.

This evidence consists of long, practically obsessive descriptions of how beautiful Mohammed was. His eyes were large, with deep black irises and bright whites, and his eyelashes were long and how good he smelled, I never smelled ambergris or musk or anything as fragrant as the scent of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. Also, he knew that horse hooves could strike sparks when galloping over stones, but there are no stones in the desert! How can you not be convinced of the existence of god and the falsity of evolution when you learn this?

He concludes by telling me how persuasive his argument is.

I want to let you know that I’ve shown this to scientists and they were utterly convinced that God didn’t exist and that we evolved from a common ancestor with primates. But after I showed them this proof that the Quran has Divine origins. They started to rethink their whole world view regarding God and atheism.

I include the entirety of his “proof” below, despite the fact that apparently it’s going to convince all of you to leave this site and go running to your nearest mosque. After all, how can you resist when Mohammed bats his lovely eyes at you?

Hi dear Dr. Myers,

First of all, I want to thank you for your contributions to science and human excellence. Without scientists this world would not be where it is today and I am extremely grateful for your dedication and hard work even if others do not show this gratitude, you’re extremely valuable to society and humanity.

Personally I believe that God created the universe including us human beings. However science today contradicts that God created mankind. I’m not like the ordinary creationists or fanatical Bible believers that I deny evolution entirely. There’s so much evidence that life originated from a single celled organism either from a common ancestor or multiple ones. I didn’t always believe in evolution nor understand it. To me the answer that God created it was enough and didn’t pay much thought into it. One day I was contemplating and as I was biking one night I figured. What if animals and all lifeforms evolved through a slow process and turned into different kinds of animals? I was like yes, God created everything but he never does anything in a supernatural fashion that happens very rarely. I was stunned as I just discovered evolution by just thinking about it. I then started to think more deeply about God, religion and whether we evolved from a common ancestor with primates. However, I did not come to that conclusion. I believe all life forms except human beings evolved from a natural process called evolution. And human beings also evolve, that’s why we have different races and survival instincts. However I don’t believe we originated from a common ancestor with primates. The reason why I will explain this to you shortly, why I have this conundrum. But I also want to propose the idea that science shouldn’t and doesn’t have to conflict with each other.

A very long time ago the scientific consensus was that the universe was eternal, no beginning and no end. This was backed by evidence, data and the entire scientific community backed this scientific model and theory. Which had a lot of weight behind it. However as we build more advanced systems and technology we could see the cosmic background radiation and we received more data and better data. We figured out that the universe did have a beginning and the big bang theory became the more dominant theory that replaced the earlier theory that the universe is eternal. This shows us that despite the fact that you have evidence and data, if it’s incomplete or we lack crucial information then the theory could be incorrect. So science always revises itself as you receive more data, better data and advance in technology. Each field of science is basically a frontier and it’s just like evolution itself evolving over time.

I want to present you evidence of the Divine and present to you why I believe there’s a God. I’m a Muslim so of course I’ll be presenting you the evidence from an Islamic perspective. However let’s not forget the contributions Muslim scholars brought forth to science since the Islamic golden age, without them we wouldn’t be here!

‎The Torah was sent to Moses and the Gospels to Jesus. And Allah says that the final messenger Prophet Muhammad was mentioned in both Heavenly books.

‎Surah Al-A’raf (7:157):“Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel…”

‎The Quran says that the Prophet Muhammad is mentioned in the Torah and Gospel.

‎In fact he is mentioned BY NAME in the Torah.

‎(Song of Solomon 5:16):

‎חִכּוֹ מַמְתַּקִּים וְכֻלּוֹ “מַחֲמַדִּים” זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלָיִם

‎Chikko mamtakim v’khulo “MACHAMADIM”, zeh dodi v’zeh re’i, benot Yerushalayim.

‎”His mouth is sweetness itself, ‎and He is “altogether desirable”. ‎This is my beloved, and this is my friend, ‎O daughters of Jerusalem.”

But in the translation they translated it to “altogether desirable” giving the literal meaning of the name. They have translated it to HIDE THE TRUTH of the Final Messenger of God.

‎Surah Al-Baqarah (2:146): ‎“Those to whom We gave the Scripture recognize him (the Prophet Muhammad) as they recognize their own sons. But some of them conceal the truth while they know it.”

‎MACHAMADIM = Muhammadim the “im” stands for plural of respect. Like “Elohim”.

‎If you take the original Hebrew word “מַחֲמַדִּים” translate it. You will get Muhammad.

‎The Hebrew word מַחֲמַדִּים (machamadim) comes from the root ḥ-m-d (חמד), meaning “to desire” or “to cherish.” ‎The word machamadim has a linguistic connection to the Arabic root ḥ-m-d (حمد), which is part of the name Muhammad, meaning “the praised one.”

What are the odds that the name of the man who, several thousand years later, would claim to be the final Prophet of God sent to all of humanity with divine revelation, would appear in the Hebrew Torah—and that his revelation would explicitly state that his name is mentioned there? What are the odds?

The Torah is 3000 years old. How is it even possible unless these scriptures are from the Divine.

However some will argue this is about Solomon and it’s not referred to Prophet Muhammad. Alright, then let’s see if that’s the case. Let’s analyze the text before.

Here there’s a description being made about a man: 10. My beloved is radiant and ruddy, outstanding among ten thousand. 11. His head is like the finest gold; his locks are wavy, black as a raven. 12. His eyes are like doves by streams of water, bathed in milk, mounted like jewels. 13. His cheeks are like beds of spices, yielding perfume. His lips are like lilies, dripping with myrrh. 14. His arms are rods of gold set with topaz. His body is polished ivory decorated with sapphires. 15. His legs are pillars of marble set on bases of pure gold. His appearance is like Lebanon, choice as its cedars. 16. His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely (maḥamaddim). This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem.

If we place this description in ChatGPT what it has to say about such a description we get this result from it: This passage paints a picture of someone with extraordinary beauty and nobility, with each description capturing both physical elegance and an almost otherworldly aura. If we were to visualize this person based on the description:

Radiant and Ruddy – A fair complexion with a slight reddish undertone, giving a healthy, glowing appearance. This reflects a vibrant and lively look, with skin that appears luminous and full of life. Finest Gold Head & Wavy Black Locks – Strong, regal features with thick, flowing black hair, shining like polished gold in the light. Eyes Like Doves by Water, Bathed in Milk, Mounted Like Jewels – Deep, dark black eyes, clear and luminous, reflecting wisdom, serenity, and kindness. Their shine, like water reflecting light, gives them a striking presence, making them both gentle and captivating. Cheeks Like Beds of Spices & Lips Like Lilies – A fragrant, smooth face, with soft yet commanding lips that are delicate and naturally sweet. Arms of Gold & Body of Ivory with Sapphires – A strong, well-formed physique, smooth and radiant, with a noble presence that exudes both strength and grace. Legs Like Marble, Set on Pure Gold – Tall, graceful, and solid, with an aura of dignity and elegance. Appearance Like Lebanon, Choice as Cedars – Majestic and awe-inspiring, like the towering and noble cedars of Lebanon, embodying both strength and beauty. Mouth Full of Sweetness, Altogether Lovely – His words and presence are irresistibly kind, wise, and full of charm, drawing people in with an undeniable grace. This description reflects someone whose beauty and nobility are unparalleled. It describes a figure of both outward splendor and inward perfection, whose presence is so noble and striking that he could only be compared to a great king or a Prophet. Such a person embodies the highest ideals of strength, purity, and elegance—a rare balance of power and gentleness that commands both love and reverence.

10. Prophet Muhammad is often described as white and reddish (ruddy) and radiant by his companions. “Outstanding among ten thousand.” When he conquered Mecca his companions were exactly ten thousand.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Mecca

11. It refers to his hair as black and wavy. This is definitive proof that this isn’t about Solomon because he was an old man, every depiction of him you see him with curly grey or white hair and a huge large beard. Jewish people also genetically have always had curly hair. So this definitely cannot be referred to Solomon. However Prophet Muhammad was described in Hadith as having long wavy black hair.

12. His Eyes Were Dark and Had a Natural Liner: Jabir ibn Samurah (رضي الله عنه) said: “The Messenger of Allah ﷺ had a broad face with a slight roundness. His eyes were wide and had a reddish hue. His eyelashes were long.” (Musnad Ahmad 20829, Muslim 2339)

His Eyes Had Depth and Contrast Abu Huraira (رضي الله عنه) said: “The Messenger of Allah ﷺ had a white complexion with a slight redness. His eyes were intensely black, and the whites of his eyes were very white.” (Shama’il al-Tirmidhi 7)

His Eyes Had a Natural Glow Hind ibn Abi Hala (رضي الله عنه) said: “His eyes were large, with deep black irises and bright whites, and his eyelashes were long.” (Shama’il al-Tirmidhi)

13. His Cheeks Were Smooth and Beautiful Hind ibn Abi Hala (رضي الله عنه) said: “His face shone like the moon. His cheeks were smooth. His mouth was finely shaped.” (Shama’il al-Tirmidhi)

His Scent Were Full of Blessings Anas ibn Malik (رضي الله عنه) said: “I never smelled ambergris or musk or anything as fragrant as the scent of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ.”

Hind ibn Abi Hala (رضي الله عنه) described the Prophet ﷺ, saying: “His mouth was finely shaped (واسع الفم), and his teeth were bright and slightly spaced.” This aligns with the “lilies” metaphor, as lilies are soft, symmetrical, and elegant. (Shama’il al-Tirmidhi)

14. Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) said: “The Messenger of Allah ﷺ had large hands and feet. His limbs were strong and well-built. When he walked, he leaned forward as if he were descending from a height.” (Tirmidhi 3638)

15. Anas ibn Malik (رضي الله عنه) said: “The Messenger of Allah ﷺ walked with a distinct, confident stride, as if the earth folded under his feet. I have never seen anyone walk faster or with more purpose.” (Shama’il al-Tirmidhi)

If we analyze this entire chapter, it starts with a woman reciting longingly about her Beloved. It seems to be a conversation as someone starts answering her. Someone answers her and starts telling her about their Beloved. And it ends with “This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem.” It responds with “daughters of Jerusalem”, so this can’t be herself or another woman. As they respond with “daughters” as if to speak from authority like a father. The One answering seems to be God and he’s talking about someone who is Beloved to him. It clearly mentions Prophet Muhammad by name, and describes his physical attributes. But what’s also interesting is that it refers to him as “my beloved”. Which means Habibullah and that means the Beloved of God, which is another name for Prophet Muhammad. It also says “this is my friend” or Khalilullah (Friend of God). Which is also another title for Prophet Muhammad. This chapter in the Torah is clearly a reference to Prophet Muhammad in the Torah.

I also want you to see this video titled:

“Arabian Horse creates a beautiful spark using it’s Hoofs” https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ruRzHcphGyY

As you can see horses can create sparks with their hooves in extremely rare situations when it is done at the right angle and specific way and time. The Quran speaks about this.

“By the racing horses, panting, (1) And striking sparks of fire (with their hooves), (2)” – Surah Al-Adiyat (100:1-3)

This wasn’t known scientifically until recent times. Also it’s an extremely rare occurrence as everything has to be just right for horses to create these sparks. You might argue perhaps they saw this and observed it themselves. But the Prophet Muhammad lived in a desert and there were horses but there was no stone pavement for the horses to create these sparks. This suggests that the author of the Quran could not have been Prophet Muhammad ﷺ but is Divine scripture as it had access to scientific knowledge unavailable at the time.

The Prophet also predicted the rise of terrorism and the Khawarij (outlaw rebels) who kill innocent people in the name of our religion.

An extraordinary Hadith that predicted the rise of ISIS. This hadith is from “Kitab al-Fitan” (The Book of Trials), authored by Imam Abu Abdullah Nu’aym ibn Hammad al-Marwazi, 843 CE, a renowned scholar of hadith.

The book in the image is titled “Kitab al-Fitan” (The Book of Trials), authored by Imam Abu Abdullah Nu’aym ibn Hammad al-Marwazi, a renowned scholar of hadith.

The excerpt on the page discusses signs and events that will occur near the end of times, as narrated in Islamic traditions. The specific text shown is a hadith attributed to Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه). Here’s a rough translation of the content:

“When you see the black flags, stay on the ground and do not move your hands or feet. Then, a group of weak people will emerge whose hearts are like iron. They will have no loyalty to any agreement, and they will call to the truth but are not of it. Their names are kunyas (nicknames), and their lineage is attributed to cities. Their hair will be long like women’s hair. They will remain divided among themselves until Allah brings the truth from whoever He wills.”

This is a warning against groups who falsely claim to act in the name of Islam but deviate from its teachings, and it describes certain traits of such groups.

The book is a well-known collection of narrations focusing on eschatology (signs of the Day of Judgment).

361342667_6827140713983109_8710295362244574271_n.jpg361143213_6827140690649778_3250448244284280830_n.jpg This Hadith has been in our books for centuries roughly 1,100 years in written format and passed down via oral tradition before that.

“There will be groups of people who will emerge from the East and will cause great harm to the Muslim community. They will be misguided and they will misguide others. When they appear, do not go near them, for they will be among the worst of people.” (Sahih Muslim, 1064a)

“Beware! There will be people who will come after you, who will recite the Qur’an, but it will not go beyond their throats. They will pass through the religion as an arrow passes through the game, and they will kill the believers and spare the idolaters. If I meet them, I will kill them as the people of ‘Ad were killed.” (Sahih Bukhari, 6924; Sahih Muslim, 1066)

“Do not harm the people of the dhimmah (non-Muslim subjects in an Islamic state), for they are under the protection of Allah and His Messenger.” (Sunan Abu Dawood, 3052)

“Do not kill a woman, nor a child, nor a non-combatant, nor an old man, nor a hermit in a monastery. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees, nor drown a goat, nor burn the enemy’s houses.” (Sahih Muslim, 1731)

“There will be people who will emerge from among you, and they will spread confusion and division. They will try to stir up strife and they will cause harm. Beware of them, for they will be the worst of people under the heavens.” (Sahih Muslim, 2917) “In the last times there will be people who will speak with the best of speech, but their hearts will be the worst of hearts. They will be the worst of creatures.” (Sunan al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 3055)

“There will be people who will speak with words that are pleasing to the ears, but their actions will be corrupt and they will lead others astray.” (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 349)

“Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded.” – Prophet Muhammad ﷺ

I want to let you know that I’ve shown this to scientists and they were utterly convinced that God didn’t exist and that we evolved from a common ancestor with primates. But after I showed them this proof that the Quran has Divine origins. They started to rethink their whole world view regarding God and atheism. Because they know that every scientific model and theory has merit and it has weight but if it’s incomplete and we don’t have enough data we could have it all wrong.

History has shown us that scientific models evolve as we receive more data or better data. Other theories replace it and previous theories are proven to have been incorrect while the scientific consensus was that it was true according to the evidence they had at the time. So science always revises itself and corrects itself. That doesn’t mean that there’s no merit in evolutionary theory. I do not reject the idea that all life forms except human beings came from a single common ancestor or multiple ones. And later evolved into dinosaurs, animals, insects, trees, plants and mushrooms.