Why do their arguments suck so bad?

Pharyngula 2025-04-04

Total buffoon

OK, Christians, have a go at me. Tell me your very best argument for the existence of a god. I just got an email that, instead of giving me an argument, listed the Top 20 Christian Apologists, as if I’m supposed to be impressed and cowed into silence.

Only problem is that I already know of most of these people, and most of their arguments, and they’re all terrible. Am I supposed to believe god exist because William Lane Craig, a confident debater with a brain the size of a pea, says, Everything that begins to exist has a cause; The universe began to exist; Therefore, the universe has a cause? That doesn’t even mention god, so who cares? I’m going to declare that the cause was hydrogen, because I’m not a physicist, and all I need to start nucleosynthesis and eventually chemistry is hydrogen. Is hydrogen god?

Anyway, here’s the list I was sent. It’s as fine a list of fools, grifters, and incompetents as you will find anywhere outside the Trump administration.

  1. Norm Geisler: normangeisler.com
  2. William Lane Craig: Reasonable Faith.org
  3. J. Warner Wallace: ColdCaseChristianity.com
  4. John Lennox: John Lennox.org
  5. Greg Koukl: STR.org
  6. Paul Copan: PaulCopan.com
  7. Ed Feser: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/
  8. Lee Strobel: Lee Strobel.com
  9. Josh McDowell: Josh.org
  10. Discovery Institute (Dembski, Meyer, Richards, Luskin, Wells): www.Discovery.org
  11. C.S. Lewis: CSLewis.org
  12. Gary Habermas: GaryHabermas.com
  13. Timothy McGrew: http://historicalapologetics.org/
  14. Dr. Michael Brown: AskDrBRown.org
  15. Richard Howe: Richardghowe.com
  16. Tim Keller: TimothyKeller.com
  17. J. Budziszewski: Undergroundthomist.org
  18. Hank Hanegraaff: Equip.org
  19. Hugh Ross: Reasons.org
  20. R. C. Sproul: Ligonier

I actually find myself quite angry that Christians think these are their best. Give up your religion if the very best argument you can find for it is a bunch of word salad and lies from a Lee Strobel or Norm Geisler or <ick> the Discovery Institute. Try and do better.